Author Topic: Riders on the Storm Traverse completed at 2.4km  (Read 4648 times)

Offline Penguin

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 145
Re: Polltoophill - Castletown River sink
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2009, 10:53:19 AM »
Mmm, 19 degrees, very tempting!   :)

Offline Andy

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 287
Re: Polltoophill - Castletown River sink
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 01:27:15 PM »
Mad, you are all MAD! 

Diving in caves, not for me!

Although .... I did read something recently about some nice sites in Florida. 

Andy


Offline BOB1577

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 265
Re: Polltoophill - Castletown River sink
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 10:21:56 PM »
Ya Andy there is some nice sites in Florida, but they have all been dived a million times before. These are new irish ones alot more challenging.

Well done arthur keep up the great work. Be up next week to lend a hand. Even if its just to survey the start section.

Offline BOB1577

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 265
Re: Polltoophill - Castletown River sink
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2009, 06:17:47 PM »
7/6/09

I had the chance to dive Polltoophill on Sunday and I said I could not miss it with the weather being so good. I arrived in the afternoon after diving in Doolin in the morning ( in other report ). I was greeted by the local cows licking my car all over. I guess they liked the salt taste from the sea water at Doolin or something. I got all the gear ready and had a plan to dive with 2 trimix tanks and 2 deco tanks. There was a guy fishing so he kinda delayed me a litttle and I had to be in Galway at 6 it was now 4 so I decided to change my plan to just do a quick dive with 2 air tanks and save the trimix ones for another day. I planned to have a bottom time of 25 mins then return. The guy fishing left and I kitted up. I headed down into the cave. Visibility was about 1-2 meters and water temp was a toasty 17 degrees. I followed the line down quite quickly to about 43 m where it levels off a little. I continued on over this area for about 15 mins with vis improving a little. The line was covered in some areas with some kinda grass and silt which was a bit unusual I thought and then had to turn. I cruized on up slowly to 20 metres and did a few minutes deco here. I had planned to do a survey of this area but time was not on my side so I headed on up, the flow in this section was stronger due to it being a little tigher but it was not substantial and an easy fin kept me moving up nothing like Arthur had experiened on previous dives. Deco at 10 m for 3 mins and 5 m for 5 mins. I excited happy with another good dive here. I hope to help Arthur with the work he is doing here but with the depths and distances I wont be able to do much on open circuit maybe stage for him or something. I am optimistic the connection to Pooldileen will be this summer for sure.

arturconrad

  • Guest
The Meeting of Stars and 1km+ in Polltoophill
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2009, 09:13:53 PM »
I am optimistic the connection to Pooldileen will be this summer for sure.

I'm not so sure anymore... :-\

On Saturday 13th of June Polltoophill sink was a place of The Meeting of Stars :P
Some young ones ( some still in rise , while the others, according to commonly shared opinion, on a fast track to perish.. ;) met some living legends and even managed to talk them into carrying their tanks.
Present were: Martyn Farr and Nick Geh (legends camp) and Jim Warny, Brendan O'Brian (BOB1547), Frank Griga and Artur Kozlowski ( young ones..ghmmm).
It was Martyn and Nick who explored first 200m upstreem in Polldeelin, during one of Dark Shamrock Expeditions back in early 90's.
As I was quite convinced that connection was within a reach of one dive, Martyn arrived from Cong (where he just had finished his cavern diving  course, Well done to everyone who passed!!  >:D) to take some shots.
I arrived quite disorganised and I needed over three hours to prepare everything and get in the water. Frank staged bailout deco 50% on 21m plus 7 and 5l O2 on 6m. Everything was ready. Brendan helped me to put on 4 Alu 80s with bailout gases (10 000l of 18/45(used also as diluent), 20/30, Ean32 and Air). Few more shots (Hopefully not the last ones I remember I thought) and off I went.
I have laid 220m of new line extending EOL to 1070m. From -62m 720m in the cave started ascending gradually in 4m wide uniform passage. I reached my previous EOL in 50min and continued in that ascending passage for another 220m to a surprising depth of -23m. I was thankful that finally I was run out of line as i wasn't really sure that I could go that shallow without stops. Beside of that my bottom time was already 1h 25min so it was high time to go home. I left empty reel as a belay point ( I was run out of snoopy loops by then) and started moving fast towards exit. I arrived to my first deco stop at 30m in 2h 20min where I find vis to be very bad. I had some worrying thoughts about what might possibly had happened on the surface ( normally you don't expect bad vis swimming upstream)  but I  continued my deco,  on Meg, flying manually on 1.5, then finish half of my 6m/O2 stop on open circuit. Plus 10min ascend to the surface from there. Terribly bored at the end as this time I forgot to bring my MP3 player... :stupid: . Total dive time 5h15min.
Once on the surface I was told about mad thunderstorm that rolled over Gort - streets were flooded with water getting into some shops... and that's the cause of that bad visibility at the end.
Few more shots in 'hero pose' and by the time we packed all the gear   it was already half nine.
Thanks to everyone for all the help!!!!!!!

EOL 1.07 km


artur
« Last Edit: June 30, 2009, 07:08:06 PM by arturconrad »

arturconrad

  • Guest
Riders on the Storm Traverse - The Connection
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2010, 07:22:12 PM »
After reaching 1380 from the entrance in Polldeelin rising I felt that I missed the connection point :
http://forum.technicaldiving.ie/index.php/topic,950.msg13924.html#msg13924
It seemed to me that trying to forge the connection from the Polltoophill Sink should be easier as in 2009 I left the end of the line in an open passage, 1070m from the entrance.

Six eventfull dive over July and August finally resulted in the connection between Polltoophill in Castletown and it's resurgence Polldeelin in Kiltartan. After 2.5 year and 45 dives from both sides the Riders on the Storm Traverse was completed - 2.4km in length with an average depth between 40-45m and max. -62m

Here are the log entries.


08.07.11

Extremely dry. River bed dry, no flow into Polltoophill, most of he river sinking into the Castle Sink.
Line repair dive. The lines severely damaged , all over the cave. Retreat after 1h when diver accidently cuts himself off the main line and looses the mojo for the day. Runtime 1.5h.

11.07.10


Further line repairs, breakages every 30-40m. On the top of that, as my nemesis , the line from an abandon lead from 2008 got entangled with 2009 line making things even more complicated. I spent a lot of time at -40m trying to sort it out but in the end I couldnt find  the continuation of the way on. Again a lot of line cutting and tying, all in low vis due to lack of the flow, a lot of second thoughts as well,  a courage to continue was sinking as a proverbial stone... The weather was extremely dry and there was no indication whatsoever from the current. I needed to go back to my 'riders on the storm' strategy' – waiting for the rain. Runtime 2.5h.

21.07.10  POLLTOOPHILL  SIEGE

Day 1
It rained a bit over the last few days, all right , but nothing really major. Arriving to Castletown I expected some decent flow. Surprisingly there was a LOT of water flowing into the sink, I was standing by the swollen river thinking WTF...?! Anyway at that stage I thought the water level was dropping but just in case I put a stick into the river bed, marked the water level and started preparing the equipment. 3 hours later whe everything was ready I went down to check the level and ...it rose by one inch! I decided to camp and wait till the next day.
Day 2 
Water levels still rising despite a lack of rain. A trip around Coole Lough, investigating its sinks and risings. Back to Polltoophill in the evening the water level seemed to stabilise. I decided to wait. Siege tactic.
Day 3
Water levels were monitored through the night and proved to be dropping slowly  but the current was still extremely high. The dive was postponed for one more day
A trip along Castletown river – Pouloonogue doline located revealing a very promising underwater cave , a lot of water flowing from at the bottom of 8m cliff, coming from the east.
Day 4
The calls from friends from Dublin worrying about my mental helth became more frequent which forced a decision to give it a go. Extra ropes were installed at the surface in case I would need to pull myself out from the cave. The flow at the surface very strong. I carefully started working my way down, at the beginning the suction under the water didnt seem that strong but I knew it could be very deceptive – it's full strength was usually thrown at the diver on his way back. At -9 metres I replaced a short section of the 8mm guideline which seemed to be very weak. At -16m where a low roof starts the flow increased rapidly. I passed that slowly to -21m and there I stopped, wondering what next. The worst section, with the strongest flow was behind me and I was still in control but I realised that if I continued and got rebreather failure no amount of open circuit bailout would get me back. So I decided to abort and return to the surface. Easy to say. There you could do only a one thing – to pull yourself along the line ( In 2009, when I applied the 'riding on the storm' tactic I put 8mm one down to -21m). Extremely hard work, at some point my breathing was so heave I was about to bailout.
The rest of the day I spent poking around in Ballylee area which resulted in discovering a new, deep and important underwater cave – Pollnaindre.
Day 5
A further drop in the water level and I decide to have another go. This time more succesfull. Following an indicative flow of the river I quickly located the way to the section found in 2009 and after repairing another section of broken line I returned to the base. I didn't expect any more line breakages, the stage was ready for a push dive.

01.08.10

Planned as a push or even a connection dive. As I expected  I quickly get into the section discovered  in 2009 where  the passage started gradually descending below -50m. There the line was broken again and I had to lay over 150m of the fresh one mostly at the depth of -60m. At -62m i came accross my line from 2009 , I tied in and continued, still in 60s. Suddenly and out of nowhere a quite substantial leak developped somewhere at my left hand side. I tried to locate it but it was very difficult to chack anything with the amount of the gear I was wearing. After a systematic check I ruled out the leak from the scuba cylinders so it must have been rebreather. I couldnt ignore it and continue, the dive had to be aborted... Once I got back to -40s on my way out I fugure out the source of the leak – the automatic diluent valve. I separeted it but unfortunately there was no way I could attack the end of the line again, I already spent a lot of time at -60m and a lengthy decompression was due. Runtime 4.5h.

07.08.10.

Yet another try. Got to -60s without any troubles, continued on that depth for a while untill the passage stated ascending. Surprisingly there was another line breakage there but I regained my line from 2009 after 20m or so. Kept ascending and around -23m I expected to see a big steel reel to which I anchored the line a year ago. However the end of the line was loose, wrapped around some small boulder. I attached a new reel and started laying a new line into the unknown. The passage wasn't even nearly as silty as I remembered, the slope was also very gentle, almost unnoticable. The passage raised to -19m with no sign of any mudbanks and then started descending again over a flat , well washed floor. Soon I was back  to -30m and the theory about the connection point in the big mudbank area faded away. But I was still following a noticable flow so I knew I was on  a good track.
After a while at 30s a line from the reel run out but this time I was prepared and reached for another 150m reel clipped to my hip Dring, tied the knot and continued interrupted in a rather pleasant passage. Suddenly the floor fell away and I stopped on the brink of some vertical drop. I made a belay and dropped down landing on a floor few metres lower. While making anothe belay at the bottom I felt that my leg caught something. First I thought it was a tree branch but I turned around and saw a relatively fresh 4mm line. I was constantly following the flow this year so there was no way it could be a Polltoophill line and this summer I was using only a 6mm while in there. So I knew straight away I made a connection with  Polldeelin, after 2.5 years and 45 dives from both sides... I tied in and proceeded for a short distant along the line untill I met a marking – it was the section of the line from my last Polldeelin dive on 16th of June. This section hasn't been survey yet but the connection was somewhere 1200m from the Polldeelin entrance and with a similar distance from the Polltoophill the Riders on the Storm Traverse was 2.4km long. Yet, to my surprise the moment of making the connection was very different from what I imagined... No euphory or deep self-content   or satisfaction. Instead I felt ...sad, I guess sad because it was over. It took me completely by surprised for on a many occasions I expressed a wish the Traverse was already completed...I guess Wild was right saying that there are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants and the other is getting it...;-) But hey, the project is far from the end , there are ongoing leads in the system which is now 2.8km long, and who knows where do they go. There's only one way to find it out, to dive there again.
Return was slow and tiring, on my way out I collected all the cylinders that secured my dive (5x 11l, one 12l, one 7l and  one 5.7l) and I surfaced at 3 am after runtime of 6.5h. I made a camp fire, prepared a late diner/early breakfast and  hit the sleeping mat at 5am.

Artur
« Last Edit: March 14, 2011, 11:02:58 AM by arturconrad »

Offline Cathal_M

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 179
Re: Riders on the Storm Traverse completed at 2.4km
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2010, 08:11:20 PM »
Nice report Artur.  Well done.   When are we going for another poke in Polnaindre?

(no offense to Indre)   :sarcasm:

Stuck in the Arizona desert at the moment 500miles from even a drop of water.  and its hot  :flame:

arturconrad

  • Guest
Re: Riders on the Storm Traverse completed at 2.4km
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2010, 10:35:27 PM »
Nice report Artur.  Well done.   When are we going for another poke in Polnaindre?

(no offense to Indre)   :sarcasm:


No offence taken:) I told her she would regret insisting on that name...:)  ::)
Pollnandre - I want to go back there this weekend and if all goes well once or twice more this year after that.
I'll also put some report on the forum tomorrow.

cheers

Offline BOB1577

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 265
Re: Riders on the Storm Traverse completed at 2.4km
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2010, 12:05:11 PM »
Arthur thats super about the connection I was wondering about it myself when we would ever find it. Have not been diving at all this summer due to my moms illness. But I hope be up on sunday so I will give ya a buzz if I around Gort.

 

     
anything