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Offline Thistlegorm

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Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« on: January 13, 2012, 09:59:11 AM »

The new Self-Reliant Diver is a no decompression speciality.

"There are two reasons for an experienced diver to take the
Self-Reliant diver course:
• To develop the skills of planning and carrying out dives without a partner
when preferred or necessary.
• To sharpen skills of diving self-reliance, making the diver a stronger
partner in a dive pair or team.

This course is an introduction to self-reliant diving that helps student divers
develop the skills, knowledge and techniques necessary to rely on themselves
first, whether or not they are diving with a partner, including:
• The value and application of the buddy system.
• The philosophy of, and motivation for, diving without a partner.
• Potential risks of diving alone, and how to manage those risks.
• The value of equipment redundancy and what back-up equipment is
needed.
• Dive planning and gas management."

quoted from the program introduction.



Offline Cathal_M

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 01:07:24 PM »
Interesting concept.  Although Ironically - if you need Padi to teach you self reliance - then you're probably not very self reliant in the first place.

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 02:04:29 PM »
Interesting concept.  Although Ironically - if you need Padi to teach you self reliance - then you're probably not very self reliant in the first place.

Well, if a diver has the self-reliance skills, then this diver does not need that kind of training. But if this diver has built his/ her diving experience relying on buddy system. Then this might appeal to him/her..

Offline Chris Byrne

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 03:16:36 PM »
Haha well put Cathal would love to be able to like comments here and this is one of them  ;D

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 03:17:39 PM »
Sorry Im sure it is a good course though

Offline bobdiver

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 03:37:57 PM »
another padi,,anything goes coarse idea,,,cant see any sense in this,, :flogging:

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 03:39:37 PM »
I wonder if the Self-Reliant Diver speciality is PADI's response to the SDI Solo Diver Course??
Also when said Cathal  :)
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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 03:42:05 PM »
Hah - I'd keep an open mind. Like everyone I started with the buddy, started diving a bit deeper and doing more stuff solo, started going a bit deeper again and all of a sudden having 3 other buddies seems like a great idea  :flame:

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 04:50:26 PM »
I see why people solo dive, and I understand the need to be self reliant........... But,

I love diving with buddies, Its way more craic when you share the experience with someone else....

For the last 6 months, and the next 14 months Iv been diving with anyone who`ll have me, as my usual buddy is off playing camp in the Curragh. :devilban:
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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 05:03:47 PM »
So can I assume that if you complete this course you are then insured to dive solo??

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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 05:05:11 PM »
Dec ur such a slut but u can be my slut anytime  ;)

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 05:17:18 PM »
So can I assume that if you complete this course you are then insured to dive solo??

Interesting point. I had a lengthy discussion with my insurers about this and their final answer was that I was insured as long as I stayed within my training limits or whilst training. Accidental solo diving due to the loss of a buddy would be covered as long as I didn't plan to lose the buddy. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't... :sarcasm:

I had a chat with a couple of course directors about the solo course last year and the general thinking was that it was a logical step to fill the gap in the training so sidemount (or redundant system) photographers using nitrox could dive longer without a buddy. I guess they figured a lot of photographers end up diving solo when the buddy gets bored.

Firas, any idea of the pre-req??

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 05:43:14 PM »
This Is the SDI Intro

The objective of this course is to train divers in the benefits, hazards, and proper procedures for diving solo. Upon successful completion of this course, graduates may engage in solo diving activities.
We have been teaching this speciality for a number of years and as you can see it states you can solo dive having completed the course I myself have taught a number of photographers this course . This can be done in one day consisting of two dives with various skills any questions please feel free to e-mail me tdisdiuk@aol.com

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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 05:51:44 PM »
Hi Aaron

1. Be certified as a PADI Advanced Open Water Diver or have a
qualifying certification from another training organization.
2. Have a minimum 100 logged dives.
3. Be 18 years of age or older.
4. Successfully complete a dive skills assessment by a PADI Self-
Reliant Diver Specialty Instructor.

Also to get an idea what skills this Advanced Open Water diver needs to perform:
Dive 1
• Conduct a buoyancy check at the surface to determine
the correct amount of weight needed for a dive with all
standard and specialized equipment.
• Perform a relaxed, nonstop 200 metre/yard surface swim
with all standard and specialized equipment.
• Demonstrate neutral buoyancy while wearing all standard
and specialized equipment underwater by hovering for
one minute without sculling or kicking.
• Demonstrate the ability to switch to a redundant air
supply system simulating a regulator free flow, and
breathe from the redundant air source for at least two
minutes.
• Perform a SAC rate swim by swimming for approximately
five minutes at a level depth, recording the appropriate
information for later calculation.
• Deploy a lift bag or DSMB from the bottom.

Dive 2
• Demonstrate time, depth and gas supply awareness by
writing the depth and cylinder pressure on a slate at
10-minute intervals.
• Swim for at least two minutes and cover a distance of at
least 18 metres/60 feet without a mask while underwater.
• While continuously swimming, simulate an out-of-air
emergency and change from your primary air supply to
your redundant air supply system within 30 seconds, then
breathe from the redundant air supply system for at least
two minutes.
• Navigate without surfacing to a predetermined location
and return to within 6 metres/20 feet of the starting point
using a compass and estimated distance measurement.
• Navigate to a predetermined location and return to
within 15 metres/50 feet of the starting point using natural
references and estimated distance measurement.
• Perform a SAC rate swim by swimming for approximately
five minutes at a level depth, recording the appropriate
information for later calculation.
• Deploy a lift bag or DSMB from the bottom.

Dive 3
• Demonstrate time, depth and gas supply awareness
by writing the depth and time on a slate for each 20
bar/300 psi of gas consumed.
• Demonstrate turn around pressure and time limit awareness
when either the pressure or time limit established
during the briefing is reached by writing the time (if
pressure limit reached first) or the pressure (if time limit
reached first) on a slate.
• Demonstrate navigational control and return to the exit
with no assistance from the instructor.
• While continuously swimming, simulate an out-of-air
emergency and change from your primary air supply to
your redundant air supply system within 30 seconds, then
deploy a lift bag or DSMB and ascend to the surface,
stopping at 5 metres/15 feet for a three minute safety
stop.
• Surface from the dive within the established time frame
and with no less than the planned pressure remaining in
the cylinder.

From what I read, may of the performance requirements came from the Tec 40 course. However maximum depth during the training is 30M and all dives to be conducted within the NDL limits.



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Re: Self-Reliant Diver - a new PADI speciality progrom
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 05:58:41 PM »
Thanks Firas. Seems like a good amount covered. Interesting how Tec teach self reliance yet the group diving thing is promoted. This course should be good for those who want a greater degree of independence without tec.   :)
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